10.3.07

鬥 portfolio

「鬥 portfolio」多數出現於網上設計討論區非理性激辯 (吵架) 的未段。類似情境如下:

「我認為事情應該是如此,而非閣下所說的那樣。」
「我錯,難道你全對?!你的說法簡直無理取鬧,白痴仔才有如斯識見。」
「收皮啦你!我白痴,你都唔好到邊啦!你講嗰啲情況根本超現實 … … 」
「超現實?!好,你咁巴支閉,攞你個 portfolio 出嚟畀大家睇吓吖!?」(通常先撩者,多對自己 portfolio 頗有自信)
「… … 」(如果被挑者稍作停頓,對方會即時再挑釁 … )
「驚牙?!淆底牙?冇好 portfolio 就唔好講咁多嘢!得個講字,有 Q 用咩!」(冇錯,同低層黑社會鬥大隻同出一轍)

事情多不了了之,因為重點已不是甚麼交流討論,而是未進化的格鬥。原來,有些人是不能單以說話之理據去理性分析和討論的;原來,有些人深信當一個人某一刻話講得多時,就代表該人沒能力做任何事,得把口;原來,portfolio 較好就連話也可以大聲點,等同陳述有理、立場正確。

雖然在談及教育時,很多人都認為能言善辯和做事能幹是兩條腿,應雙向發展。但漸漸發覺,原來有人會假設,一旦多話就自動等於零工作能力;難道做事能幹就應該是個啞巴?為甚麼一定要二揀一?非黑即白?Come on ~~~

Portfolio 強就成權威,有佢講冇人講,這是我們想要的討論環境嗎?當然,明白到好的 portfolio 或戰績某程度是可以加強一些言論的說服力,空口講白話是難以服眾的。但是,如果「討論」已經變得不理性,純以文革式打倒別人為目的,火遮眼地一心想因人廢言,那麼,相信就算被挑者 portfolio 比先撩者強,結果只會是憤憤不平,唔順超結局 —— 「哼!你好嘢!山水有相逢呀!睇路啦!」。

作為正努力走向文明的人,我不贊同「鬥 portfolio」這野蠻行為。

‘A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others.’
Ayn Rand

曾遇過能言善辯卻口手不一的設計人,講一套做又一套,的確令人錯愕 (但仍 appreciate 其能言的才華)。自己引以為鑑。然而,認識我的朋友 / 心思細密者多少知道我曾做過的,雖未算標青,但應該不至於零工作能力,得個講字。

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這地的氣息是令人嚮往,是會令人懷念的。(攝於 Barbican Centre)

21 Comments:

At 10/3/07 1:23 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

仲講?做功課啦。
勝負已分,唔駛鬥啦。
原來,另一邊箱,部份放洋留學設計網民是這樣的。了解了解。

 
At 10/3/07 2:47 pm, Blogger 觀。鳥。家。。果仔 said...

雖然我知你講緊邊到,但香港實在有一班未進化既朋友。

(我唔係回上面個位朋友,唔該)

 
At 10/3/07 8:14 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"零工作能力"...I always think if I am still lack of working abilities...

I can't tell exactly what I've actually learnt in these 3 years in uni...we have been working on many and many projects ... boring projects, and without constructive feedbacks... The school seems being very open to we guys that a High Distinction could be easily given if the deadlines were met and there are no technical errors (such as typography and grids...)...

yea, I went to Australia because I would like to learn more about typography, and I may really reaching the target...but what about others?

Am I being trained as a kind of design-machine? that I would only follow the briefs and work it out, and that's all I've done in these years?....confused.

 
At 10/3/07 8:52 pm, Blogger 學子 said...

越來越喜歡這句語錄。

‘It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.’
William G. McAdoo (1863 - 1941)

 
At 11/3/07 12:12 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

哈~ 你呢句我剛剛 0係 李天命既《哲道行者》中 , 佢講 : 所永不智,萬苦之源,小心死心眼。

一個人一旦死心眼 , 很多說話都聽唔到 , 咁你又何來 defeat 倒佢地呢 ? >xD

 
At 14/3/07 1:02 am, Blogger 黑人 said...

果個paul rand 好似情緒不太穩定喎,接二連三地發出一些情緒化的留言。

網上討論要變成人身攻擊有幾難

有實據擊倒對方的論點才難
鬥portfolio就更笨實,跟大陸小農的call 馬「人多就是有道理」有乜分別?

你份portfolio 「靚」d,難道就代表你說地球是方的大家都必須認同?come on!

btw: 我是古

 
At 14/3/07 1:10 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

好中意你概blog

 
At 14/3/07 5:20 am, Blogger 學子 said...

真 Paul Rand 正正是做得又講得的典範人物。其著作《Thoughts on design》和《A designer’s art》就是不齋做做做的好例子。他示範了,做以外,口水,是很有價值的。雖然他辭世多年,但我沒有當他所說所做的是死的。可是,有很多人卻當佢死嘅,或只知其名,不知其為。可惜。(如果引經分享經驗是拋書包,今次我又忍不住拋了一拋了。)

{{ : )

謝古和這位無名氏 (下次煩請留名)。

 
At 14/3/07 11:34 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

過獎,過獎。
用《也文也武》來形容學子就最好不過了。
Wish you also understand one of my famous quote
"Works. NOT Words" - Paul Rand

 
At 15/3/07 12:02 am, Blogger 學子 said...

咁証明 portfolio 強都唔一定啱晒嘞,就算係 (假) Paul Rand。

我覺得 BOTH。Works & words 同樣重要。

請教貴 quote 出自何處?!(學子寡聞)

 
At 16/3/07 9:00 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

古 正是乃狗屎垃圾出名拋書包之流

 
At 16/3/07 9:14 am, Blogger 學子 said...

請自重。

 
At 16/3/07 11:09 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How are you doing Mr. Rand? I bet you must laughing at us up there in the heaven.

I always believed that good designer is good people. In fact, good designer must have integrity and respect to the others in order to win the trust from his/her clients and colleagues.

Well, maybe I am wrong or perhaps this Paul Rand in here is simply a jerk.

If one talks the way as this Paul Rand in here, and I very sure your so called "portfolio" is full of shit which contains only empty gustation.

Oh! by the way, thinking by hijack the name Paul Rand will make you smarter?

lol...lol...

Mr. Rand must laugh out loud at you Mr. Jark.

請自重。切雞師!

 
At 16/3/07 2:18 pm, Blogger 黑人 said...

唉...
我知錯喇
我自己個blog 既留言版係咁俾個傻仔炸

 
At 16/3/07 4:25 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

感覺是普遍香港人不但做不好,連表達方面也一塌糊塗。

 
At 17/3/07 12:29 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

鬥porfolio不如除褲鬥o者長!

無啦啦鬥咩porfolio? 而家又吾係見工,點解要show俾你睇? 同你好熟?

看不過眼之流

 
At 17/3/07 1:32 am, Blogger 學子 said...

謝謝各位仗義除害。

{{ : )

(一時不慎言不代表甚麼,人人都由不成熟走到成熟。倘若擊倒了我這名學子,也不代表甚麼。一切,自知。請自重。)

 
At 17/3/07 11:54 am, Blogger 學子 said...

閱畢今期《壹週刊》陶傑的《坐看雲起時》— 《象嘴裡長得出狗牙?》和這個 post,令人感觸起來。

 
At 25/3/07 7:27 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

看來什麼大陸小農的call 馬「人多就是有道理」,在這裡真是被發揮得漓淋盡至。

網上討論要變成人身攻擊有幾難?
Stanley said..."Well, maybe I am wrong or perhaps this Paul Rand in here is simply a JERK."
一點也不難,他做到了。

寡聞地拋書包是自取其辱的捷徑。

願你們有一天長出象牙。

p.s. "Works, Not Words" is form the convertsation between Paul Rand and Bob Gills about logo design 1962.

 
At 25/3/07 7:32 pm, Blogger 學子 said...

多謝指教。

 
At 25/3/07 7:48 pm, Blogger 學子 said...

虛心請教:請問哪裏可以找到「Works, Not Words" is form the convertsation between Paul Rand and Bob Gills about logo design 1962.」的文稿?(絕非挑戰,純粹好奇。謝。)

 

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